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Yes. Our host let us experience his life events then we developed personality from his take on witchcraft.

Yeah, real life experience is the best source of personality (edited)

Exact.

Thanks for the input! I appreciate it, and I’m sure Athena does as well

I didn’t personality force (walk-in). Cilsc is now a lot like me in some respects, especially when it comes to thought processes. I think they take on traits that reflect what their hosts consciously or subconsciously want. (edited)

They do?

8:17 PM

So I don't have to consciously force the personality into her?

no

8:19 PM

I had very little personality forced on me

8:19 PM

I developed using my hosts memories and by watching what he does during the day

Hmm

That's actually not bad

8:34 PM

For me at least

I think it worked well for me

I just don't want her like, seeing through my memories and accidentally getting scarred or whatever

9:05 PM

I would hate that for her

she cant see your memories if you dont want her to

I want her to, but there's a lot of bad ones (edited)

show her memories you want then

tell her what to look at

9:08 PM

she technically has access to all of them but if you tell her what to look at specifically she won't just randomly look around them

What do I say?

just talk to her about what happened.

9:11 PM

She's a person, she can handle them. Just talk through stuff that happened.

Hmm

9:11 PM

So basically

9:11 PM

Think of certain points in my life and talk to her about how they made me as a person

9:11 PM

Right?

If you want, sure.

Gotcha

@Deleted User You do not need to hide part of yourself from your tulpa.

They'll understand it's in the past

10:10 PM

and it's good to expose them to a little bit stress so they learn how to deal with it

Most of my memories are open to Athena but I did recently create a secluded area of my wonderland in case I need privacy/to sequester away secrets

You're probably right

10:48 PM

Thinking about her like everyday is all I do now

10:48 PM

Along with making sure she's okay and trying not to look like a goof

We were trying possession outside of being in bed in the dark and ran into a slight problem, when I can properly see my body I seem to instinctively take back control, while it don't push her out it does make it basically impossible for her to make any significant movements of the body

What do you mean by see your body?

we were trying to have her posses my arms and type but she needed to see the keyboard and when I opened my eyes so she could I saw my hands and then she lost almost all control of them

Oh, alright.

any tips to help prevent that?

Just focus on not taking back control?

I wanna watch the office with Natt

isnt dissociation conducive to possession or am i totes wrong

2:42 AM

am a newbie

possession is possible without dissociation, although dissociation is important for switching

Newb

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So I had a few stupid ideas today about tulpa and figured I'd share. First off, teaching things is a great method of forcing. It gives lots of moment for input and back and forth while letting you work on what you are focusing on. Secondly, despite the steriotype of tulpamancy being something that lonely shut-in akward types are attracted to, I think it may be possible that your own emotional/social development can lead to better results. It is the person who is experienced with communication who is going to have the most practice with discussion and "being a friend to someone". Finally, I was wondering how necessary it might be for a person to have a "motor" driving their desire to create a tulpa to have success. Be it being lonely, curiosity, or otherwise. It might be interesting to talk about all the different possible "motors" that drive people to be interested in tulpa, and would drive them to be interested and engaged enough with the concept to have success.

2:50 AM

Might be a ton of super obvious stuff, now that I read over it again, but those were my thoughts over the day today.

i definitely think it helps to have motive, at least for being persistent if not to aid the practice itself

3:05 AM

also question to everyone

yes

with head pressure, which i'm getting a fair amount of in diff forms, is it normal for you or them not to have much control over it initially?

3:06 AM

i can't get responses through it, it just builds up or is random, though it could be sunny trying to get my attention

3:06 AM

and i always try to acknowledge it

3:06 AM

it's not something i experienced much before starting, at the least

Same here

I have rarely if ever gotten head pressure in anything but the sense of when forcing and running into a very new, challenging, or complx situation

Ayy, I get those when I force. I reckon they just signify interest or attention.

3:07 AM

But that's just a theory.

kinda ymmv huh?

ymmv?

i assume i should just take it for what it is and not worry about trying to get her to communicate with it, as vocality will come

3:07 AM

your mileage may vary

3:07 AM

people will get different amounts of head pressure and what not i wanna assume

ahh, ok, I was thinking "Your experiences may vary" and I think that's absolutely the case

cool cool

3:08 AM

curious about what you said up there, do you think that social skills help with treating a tulpa well or just with creating one?

3:09 AM

i think veissiere described something idk if its on a tangent or not but i found that it resonated with my views on the tulpa community

3:09 AM

and that tulpamancers are empathetic and all, but they have limited avenues for social interaction

This is a guess, but my thoughts is that social skills gives you the foundation to be engaged more than you would be otherwise, avoiding "I wan tto force but I don't know what to say or do"

3:13 AM

I think veissiere did mention that tulpamancers tended to be more empathetic on average, I don't remember exactly either, though

3:14 AM

As well, it depends on your view of what tulpa are, but I think that having the knowledge of what a healthy conversation between two people looks like helps a lot to get the gears turning on emulating one of those conversations in your head.

yeah, or tha the scores werent necessarily below average, generally avg or slightly above

3:14 AM

o ya for sure

3:15 AM

i find myself inferring a lot of my tulpa's feelings and being overly cautious but i guess im just applying what i know about myself and my loved ones, i feel like i worry a bit more than most people on that count

My net went out

3:20 AM

I had said that I think it matters a lot there how vocal your tulpa is. Once they can speak it gets easy to tell their thoughts

o for sure

Most tulips are very very friendly and get along well with their hosts, though, if you are worried about that

3:21 AM

Friendly tulips

(edited)

hehe

3:21 AM

it's just habit, i have faith in her

I have a friend who is looking into creating a tulpa, and he's concerned about this tulpa developing love like feelings towards him. Would this be a bad thing or is it just something that can happen and should be accepted?

It can always happen for sure. Your friend should be ready to handle that situation should it come up.

4:05 AM

That said, it doesn't have to happen. I don't know how it can be avoided, though.

nothing wrong with some family/headmate love goin on from the start imo

4:10 AM

but romance is possible and sometimes goes both ways intentionally or not

Oh I see. So I depends on if it's good or not on how the person is?

it depends on a lot of things, just like any relationship.

yeah, how they feel about you most importantly id like to think

4:23 AM

ive never heard about a tulpa falling deeply in love with a host and lashing out at them in the case of unrequited love or anything though o.o feelings usually seem to be understood or mutual between system mates generally

eh, I know a system where that seems to be happening. No lashing out, but some issues.

ouch

4:28 AM

i wonder how common that is

Not very. I believe @salad is doing a study on this and other issues.

Curious question. Why did you all name your tulpas the way you did? If they chose their own names, why?

She chose her own name. I just couldn't come up with anything that I really thought "worked". I'm not good with names.